{"id":2757,"date":"2009-04-16T15:37:19","date_gmt":"2009-04-16T22:37:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lee.org\/blog\/?p=2757"},"modified":"2012-09-24T13:58:17","modified_gmt":"2012-09-24T20:58:17","slug":"carpet-cleaning-telemarketers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lee.org\/blog\/2009\/04\/16\/carpet-cleaning-telemarketers\/","title":{"rendered":"Carpet Cleaning Telemarketers Get Violent"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I did a bad thing ;-)<\/p>\n<p>I got yet another telemarketing call from &#8220;The Carpet Cleaning Company&#8221;. Over the last couple years I&#8217;ve tried getting myself off their telemarketing list, starting with being on the National Do Not Call Registry. I tried &#8220;press 9 to remove yourself from our list&#8221; maybe 3 times in the last year (they call a lot). I tried talking to the nice lady who comes on and have alternately been hung up on and told that I&#8217;d be removed. Let me also say that I have no carpets that might possibly be cleaned! The biggest rug in the place is the throw in the bathroom.<\/p>\n<p><strong>So today I signed up to have my carpets cleaned<\/strong>. They&#8217;ll be here Thursday between 8 and 10 am.<\/p>\n<p>I gave a ficticious name and a ficticious address. They said they&#8217;d call before coming out. I&#8217;m debating whether I should call it off when they call to confirm. I mean, all I want is for them to realize it&#8217;s not in their interest to call me. I don&#8217;t want to put some guy in a van out.<\/p>\n<p>What do you suggest?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Update 4-23-09<\/strong>: The Cleaners Arrive<\/p>\n<p>I got a call at about 9:30 from &#8220;the carpet cleaners&#8221; saying they&#8217;d be arriving shortly. At about 10, there they were!<\/p>\n<p>I took a few photos of their truck, waited a few minutes and then approached them.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-2815\" title=\"carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-1\" src=\"http:\/\/lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-1-200x91.jpg\" alt=\"carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-1\" width=\"200\" height=\"91\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-1-200x91.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-1-300x137.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-1-1024x469.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-2816\" title=\"carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-2\" src=\"http:\/\/lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-2-200x148.jpg\" alt=\"carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-2\" width=\"200\" height=\"148\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-2-200x148.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-2-300x222.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-2-1024x758.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-2.jpg 1679w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-3.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-2817\" title=\"carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-3\" src=\"http:\/\/lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-3-200x128.jpg\" alt=\"carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-3\" width=\"200\" height=\"128\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-3-200x128.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-3-300x192.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-3-1024x657.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-3.jpg 1985w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-4.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-2818\" title=\"carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-4\" src=\"http:\/\/lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-4-200x190.jpg\" alt=\"carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-4\" width=\"200\" height=\"190\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-4-200x190.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-4-300x285.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-4-1024x975.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The conversation started out like this as best I can recollect. I&#8217;m forgetting  \u00a0some little bits but you get the idea (next time, I&#8217;ll record video of <strong>everything<\/strong>)<\/p>\n<p>As I approached from across the street, the angry cleaner  \u00a0immediately asked something like, &#8220;So what about the carpets you need cleaned?&#8221; I guess I had &#8220;clean my carpet!&#8221; written all over my face. I had been trying to be all nonchalant. Oh well. ;-)<\/p>\n<p>Lee &#8211; I don&#8217;t have a carpet needing cleaning. It&#8217;s illegal for you to have called me because I&#8217;m on the Do Not Call List.<\/p>\n<p>Cleaner &#8211; Hey but we&#8217;re here.<\/p>\n<p>Lee &#8211; Your company has called me 10.. no 20 times in the last 2 years and I&#8217;ve tried to get off your list every which way.<\/p>\n<p>Cleaner &#8211; Hey maybe it wasn&#8217;t us that called you. There are a lot of companies like us out there.<\/p>\n<p>Lee &#8211; Well, you&#8217;re here so it must have been your company.<\/p>\n<p>I heard his phone ringing for a while and he picked it up. He handed me the phone telling me that I could talk with his company about it. There was a woman on the phone that I told much the same story to. I gave her my real name and phone number and she said something like she&#8217;d look into it or remove me from their list or something. As we spoke on the phone, the cleaner got more agitated and I ended up talking to him more than the woman. He took back the phone and we talked more.<\/p>\n<p>The cleaner was getting angry that I had photgraphed his truck and said he wanted the pictures back. I saw it was getting ugly and thought to turn on the video function of my camera.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Watch the video. NSFW: profanity:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Pay particular attention where at 1:13 in the video <strong>the cleaner commits assault<\/strong>, gesturing angrily and saying, &#8220;I&#8217;m gonna screw your ass. I know where you live. Ok bitch?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p id=\"player1\" style=\"display:none\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.macromedia.com\/go\/getflashplayer\">Get the latest Flash Player<\/a> to see this player.<\/p>\r\n<noscript><p>[Javascript required to view Flash movie, please turn it on and refresh this page]<\/p><\/noscript>\r\n\r\n<script type=\"text\/javascript\">\r\n\tdocument.getElementById(\"player1\").style.display = \"\";\r\n\t\r\n\tvar s1 = new SWFObject(\"https:\/\/www.lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/plugins\/flv-embed\/flvplayer.swf\",\"player1\",\"648\",\"500\",\"7\");\r\n\ts1.addParam(\"wmode\",\"transparent\");\r\n\ts1.addParam(\"allowscriptaccess\",\"always\");\r\n\ts1.addParam(\"allowfullscreen\",\"true\");\r\n\ts1.addVariable(\"height\",\"500\");\r\n\ts1.addVariable(\"width\",\"648\"); \n\ts1.addVariable(\"file\",\"http:\/\/lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/the-carpet-cleaners-telemarketers-888-587-5482.flv\");\n\ts1.addVariable(\"image\",\"http:\/\/lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/the-carpet-cleaners-telemarketers-888-587-5482.jpg\");\n\ts1.addVariable(\"link\",\"http:\/\/lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/the-carpet-cleaners-telemarketers-888-587-5482.flv\");\n\ts1.addVariable(\"overstretch\",\"true\");\n\ts1.addVariable(\"showstop\",\"true\");\n\ts1.addVariable(\"showdownload\",\"true\");\n\ts1.addVariable(\"autostart\",\"true\");\n\ts1.addVariable(\"bufferlength\",\"8\");\r\n\ts1.write(\"player1\");\r\n<\/script>\n<p>Here is the contract from the video that the guy was so adamant about not giving me. (right-click to view a legible size)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-5-contract.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-2814\" title=\"carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-5-contract\" src=\"http:\/\/lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-5-contract-169x200.jpg\" alt=\"carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-5-contract\" width=\"169\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-5-contract-169x200.jpg 169w, https:\/\/www.lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-5-contract-254x300.jpg 254w, https:\/\/www.lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-5-contract-869x1024.jpg 869w, https:\/\/www.lee.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/carpet-cleaner-telemarketer-5-contract.jpg 990w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 169px) 100vw, 169px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Notes:The back of the truck has the email address \u00a0scrtysiltns@yahoo.com on the portable job box. It&#8217;s a Ford F-150 pickup truck, white with orange near the bottom. California licence plate 8T12730.<\/p>\n<p>The invoice he kept waving at me has the following written on it &#8220;Rug Steamer  \u00a0Tel: 888-587-5482&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Maybe I&#8217;m off their telemarketing list. It&#8217;s definite that their value proposition for using illegal telemarketing has decreased.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Update 12-10-09:<\/strong> I haven&#8217;t gotten a call from them in months. I think I&#8217;m finally off their list :-)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I did a bad thing ;-) I got yet another telemarketing call from &#8220;The Carpet Cleaning Company&#8221;. Over the last couple years I&#8217;ve tried getting myself off their telemarketing list, starting with being on the National Do Not Call Registry. I tried &#8220;press 9 to remove yourself from our list&#8221; maybe 3 times in the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[23,1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2757","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-do-not-call","category-general"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lee.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2757","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lee.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lee.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lee.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lee.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2757"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.lee.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2757\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2813,"href":"https:\/\/www.lee.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2757\/revisions\/2813"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lee.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2757"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lee.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2757"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lee.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2757"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}